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Alternate Roman Empire by Kurarun Alternate Roman Empire by Kurarun
This is something I drew just for the sake of it. An alternate Roman Empire incorporating most of modern day Germany. It's based off a very old map of an alternate Roman Empire that I drew ages and ages ago.

Hope you like it!
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:iconrodegas:
Rodegas Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014
R. I. P. xD
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Tourniquet5 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
Nice Detail in the Map man, awesome.
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Kurarun Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks, but there's basically no detail at all on this map. :p
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LSDInkvizitor Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Oh come on! Sarmatia also needs aquaducts! :(
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Spankcindy Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013
Cool!
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KrovMalenkov Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love this! "Senatus Populusque Romanus"!!! I just drew The Roman Empire in the form of a person! I did it because of the Game Series Civilization V! You should check it out, but props to this!
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Pimsleurable Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
270 CE is the year? Well, that must place this map around the time of the Third Century Crisis.
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Kurarun Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I suppose so - though I never actually came up with any sort of history or background for this map, so I've no idea if the crisis has been avoided, mitigated, or worsened in this world.
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Joshmoe93 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014
If Commodus had not become Emperor after his father Marcus Aurelius died, the Empire might have survived for at least a few centuries later.
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Pimsleurable Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012
Had an Emperor other than Constantine thought of moving the capital to Byzantium would it have benefited greatly?
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Kurarun Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I honestly don't know. Like I said, I didn't do any research for this map, so I don't know much about the history I'm afraid. :(
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Pimsleurable Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012
That all right. I can only speculate.
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Caulaincourt Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2012
I like it but when I picture a roman empire expanded in Germania I always imagine the eastern border as being the Oder river or at least the Elbe. Your border doesn't seem to follow any physical borders, except perhaps the hills around Bohemia. Personally I always imagine an expanded border extending down the Oder River from the Baltic Sea to the Carpathians and along the Carpathian mountains to the Black Sea.

All said, I know it was just a doodle for the sake of it.
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TE-Williams Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmmm. . . 1023 AUC would be 270 AD, right? If the Romans had invaded and colonized Germania sometime in the late 100s-early 200s, this would work.
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3452te Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012
I made a map showing the modern world with empires in, one of them is the roman empire (and its territories and colonies), the swedish empire (and its territories) danish empire (not including britannia cause rome got that), Russian empire,kingdom of arabia, persia, Chinese empire (aka qing dynasty), japanese empire (with WW2 not existed), mesoamerca and the incas. But it's a work in progress.
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seanuberallas Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2011
if only that would have happened
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Kurarun Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well I never actually made up any concrete history for this map, so it's basically impossible to tell whether the world would be better off had it happened.
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Kage-no-senso Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
heh, I like the old affects on it, makes it look more authentic, and therefore more neat and interesting
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Fabioso74 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011
Roman made civilization culture and art ..tactical war and much more!!! Still copying them
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Fabioso74 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011
Roman Empire the best in the World..There is no one who was strong like Romans!!!!!!
NON VEDRAI NULLA PIU GRANDE DI ROMA
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Spetsnaz08 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2011
Rome is the Best fuck the rest
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011
Poor Magna Germania oO Arminius lost then Iīd say right?

But the map is awesome made!
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Kurarun Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've no idea about the history behind this map - it was entirely random. It's also not well made, and is definitely far from my best work. I wish people would stop liking it.
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Fabioso74 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011
Maybe you have to study history
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011
Haha, no problem, but itīs always cooler to discuss about a picture instead of always saying: nice, and nothing else XD Especially historical ones^^
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TheAresProject Featured By Owner May 6, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
Is 'Res Publica Romana' really proper? I thought it meant something like 'the Roman public affair' or something.
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Kurarun Featured By Owner May 7, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's what it means, yes. I made this map about three years ago, and was honestly not as intelligent at the time as I am now, hence the nonsensical Latin. This map is probably my most hated map, for that reason and others.
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TheAresProject Featured By Owner May 8, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
I'm guessing that those other reasons include the borders?
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Kurarun Featured By Owner May 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's mainly the fact that it's my most favourited map, despite how unimaginative, basic and generally poor it is. I've made many maps that are much more interesting and well thought-out, yet people still seem to prefer a vague, red blob on an old paper texture.
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TheAresProject Featured By Owner May 25, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
That's weird...
I mean, you didn't even trace the rivers correctly!
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PhilK5 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2010
Actually part of Germania (thats where you get "Germany" from, baby - Romans - they named you, and the British) WAS Roman.
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Kurarun Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know, but the Roman Empire didn't stretch over most of the territory of modern Germany, which, in this alternate timeline, it does.

Also I'm British, not German, and I'm fully aware that the Latin names for various ethnic groups and geographical locales persist barely modified in modern English.
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PhilK5 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2010
Arminius must have had Uruguayan umpires for their battle with Varas's Romans in the Teutoberg Forest.....
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remildragos Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010
Yes, Arminius defeated the romans and got killed by his fellow germanics. Some savior he was. I don't think Romanisation was such an evil thing. After all, Germans wanted romanisation. That's how Holy Roman Empire came to be.
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swarfega Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
no thats not technically correct. The Roman in Holy Roman Empire refers to Roman Catholicism. They were much more religious in those days giving up vast tracks of land to the Church.
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Kurtle Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2010   Writer
That was MUCH later, and it was rather more complicated than that.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2010
Ha ha nice dream, but 9 a.D. Hermann der Cherusker, the first german national hero kicked the Romans out of Germania and saved the Germanics against Romanisation^^

Hermann der Cherusker is also called Arminius and in New Ulm in the USA is a great statue of him, as well as in Germany in Detmold (Hermannsdenkmal).

So funny, Romans defeated all high-cultures of the antic time, but never the Germanics or Scotish^^
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ronaldo9999 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012
Ya but if you look at it Romans did win in the end, today Germans and all Western Countries are to some sort Imitating what the Romans have been doing 2500 BC. Democracy, Politics, Science, Literature, Art and cleanness all were never found in ancient Germany but all Creations of the Romans and the Greeks. Biggest Influence is their the Alphabet you're using to write is derived from Latin.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012
I like the Roman Empire somehow, but that you use democracy in the same sentence as Romans is funny, because Rome was an aggressive military-dictature attacking all nations and tribes they knew.

Of course our modern movies show only the good sides, epic fights, culture and such. But the reality was different.

Do you know the story of Arminius? The Romans conquered the territory of his tribe and he was sent to Rome, to learn how to fight for Rome. He was the son of the tribe-leader.
When he came back as an adult, he saw how the Romans treated his tribe, they werenīt free anymore, the Romans were not interested in nature or equality of women and men, as the Germanics really treated them!
And so he became angry and he made a plan how to throw out that brute. And he was successful and we didnīt lose our language and culture and even became the heirs of the Roman Empire.

WHen Rome fell, the german emperors called their empire Holy Roman Empire of German nation.

I donīt dislike the Romans or Greeks, they were also great cultures, but I dislike, that the people forget the germanic cultures and gods.
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ronaldo9999 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
the Romans did not have a better shaped Democracy as we do today but surely it beat the Democracy run during the middle ages and the upcoming Centuries preceding it's fall; And the myth of Germans not being Misogynistic falls short completely when there were many historic accounts of tribe members killing/raping with no mercy the women of other tribes. And Sure the Romans were Brutal when it came to their Military but Rome was an Empire and an Empire needs to expand its lands; same could be said about the Americans/British Empire who also killed thousands of native Americans. I don't question German culture or Religion , of course it's a great deep Culture like all other cultures.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
Democracy doesnīt automatically mean human-rights, Rome and its soldiers were not defenders of their fatherland, but aggressive killers and rapers.

I know that the germanic tribes fought against each other, their believe in Walhalla, where only brave warrios that fall on the battlefield can enter, made them excellent fighters that risk a lot.

Well the question here was, would it have been better of Rome had won against the Germanics? My answer is no, yours is yes it seems.^^

Sorry for my bad English, itīs not my mother-language.
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ronaldo9999 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
Yes the Romans Fought for their Mother Land ROMA and if the they wouldn't have defeated the Might of Hannibal and his Carthiginian Empire, The Western ideals we are so accustomed to today would have never have Spread through to the rest of Europe. And there were Numerous Bloody Battles the Romans have undergone, millions of Soldiers lost their lives Fighting to defend their honor of their Empire; And in the Case they were Defeated or for acting cowardly, the Surviving Military were Decimated. This is all have been recorded down. But Anyway You should Familiarize yourself more with The Roman Empire and see their Many Influences rather than the myth and bad rumors surrounding them, it's a Great Civilization that we should be honored that for some period of time have Roamed our Lands.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
I respect the Roman Empire, but the other Europeans were able to develope the same after the middleage, so our modern nations can be proud, too.
After the middleage, we were far above the standard of Rome, they never were able to cause the industrial revolution, they existed 1000 years and where not able to come forward out of the antic technology.
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ronaldo9999 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
Sure the Post Renaissance Europe and modern times is more advanced than where the Romans had left off but first of all Europe was not Industrialized, Paved well, Literate, Clean, Inhabitable before the Romans came. Also the comparison fades with with other European tribes During the Roman Era. And let's face it, the Europeans would not have got off their Back if not for the re-discovery of Roman/Greek Legacy, Every Body knows how the Renaissance happened and WHERE specifically it happened, if not for Dante's Divine Comedy which had featured Virgil as it's major characters or the Marvelous works of Da Vinci and Michael Angelo which pay tribute to Latin Creativity. But of course credit has to be given to Shakespeare and other non-italian Renaissants. Shakespeare alone Completely Latinzed English, a germanic language. and his works mimic the Latin Comedies and Tragedies written Long ago. Also other credit has to go to the Arabian and Muslims who handed us a simpler Numeral system and their advanced Chemistry. But I could go on and on till i bore you about how the Romans Paved the Way for us Europeans and gave us little advantage above the some other people. And that is certainly something i think we should not take for granted. Romans left us with a Wealth of Knowledge that we only began to rediscover since after the dark ages which allowed for civilization to progress again.
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Kurarun Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, this wasn't meant to be realistic. I made this map on a whim because I thought it would look good.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2010
It´s cool!!! But now you must also make a Germania-map^^
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SkyinOd Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2009  Student Digital Artist
I love it
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ShootingGuaRD Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2008
You've kinda played "Medieval" or "Rome Total War" way too much buddy :)
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Kurarun Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hahaha!

I wish, I can't play RTW properly on my laptop, it refuses to let me zoom in and out, so it's very hard to do anything, and battles are almost impossible!
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ShootingGuaRD Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2008
And my "new" VGA card won't let me play Medieval T.W. because it's "new"!! B.S. :hmm:
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